Episode 53 – High Low: A Deeper Cut

Episode 53 - Shovel digging

Jake and Brett return to a staple in the podcast and share their highs and lows of the past few weeks. They spend some time talking about navigating marriage as well as addressing the self-life. 


Guiding Quotes

“whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.” (Matthew 10:39)

Key Points

  • Jake decided to cancel this year’s Men’s Retreat
  • COVID can be a blessing to slow us down and give us room to return to what is most important
  • Brett is reading Be Devoted by Dr. Bob Schuchts with his wife and finding the discussions very rich
  • Couples can regurgitate a couple arguments over and over
  • Addressing the self-life is important
  • We can ask ourselves when faced with the self-life, “What kind of man do I want to be?”
  • When Jesus says “Unless we lose our lives, we won’t find them, he is talking about the self-life.”
  • We are called to self-gift not the self-life
  • The health above the surface of our hearts reveals the health below the surface of our hearts

Discussion Questions

  • What struck you from this episode?
  • What kind of man do you want to be?
  • Where do you notice the “self-life?”
  • How are you doing “under the surface” of your heart?